Behaviour and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

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Part 2

When watching charlie and the chocolate factory, one thing was imminent: the behaviour of kids, the behaviour of adults, and their relationship. In these two clips, it is evident that the kids have done something that Wonka has opposed them not to and that has resulted them various consequences. You can see that majority of these kids act the way they do because of the parents influence. They aren’t “bad” kids because of themselves but because their parents refused to teach them the different between right and wrong!

“I honestly thought that this had both positives and negatives.  The positive parts include that it does show kids that if you do something bad or something that shouldn’t be done then there are consequences. The one negative I can think of is the fact that it’s not the kid’s fault that they are doing bad things. I think that if the parents had intervened then they wouldn’t act this way.”- Sadaf

“I think one of the good things about Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is the way in which it satirizes modern families and the way in which people raise their children. Some people spoil their children, push them too hard overfeed them, or let the television raise them. However i think it problematic that the film allows a depiction in which the children are punished for the mistakes of the parents also problematic are cultural stereotypes, take for instance the german stereotype of agustus gloop, or the colonialist attitude of willy wonka towards the oompa-loompas (colonizer verses primitive tribe). these cultural stereotypes are innacurate and outdated” – Mina

What do you guys think? Is it the parents fault? Do bad things always happen to bad people and good to only good people? LET US KNOW!


7 Responses to “Behaviour and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory”

  1. 1 Alyssa March 1, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Following this line of thought, I don’t think all of the blame should be put on the parents. Where did the parents learn parenting? You might say ‘from their parents’, this of course being an infinite regress. What I mean is rather parenting as a social construction of the time in which the parents are raising their children. What is really to blame for the children’s behaviour is not the children themselves, not their parents, but the media, the social environment in which these people all live.

  2. 2 Joanna March 1, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    When watching Charlie and the Chocolate Factory what struck out the most to me was the excessive punishments for two the the children. While being thrown done the trash chute was a just desert for Veruca and her father. I found Violet’s punishment (being turned blue permanently) and Mike’s punishment (being shrunk and then stretched out) to be excessive and far more severe than what their bad behavior warranted.

    @Alyssa: while what you say is true at some level. As persons with more experience and greater cognitive capacities, parents should be able to assess their own life and figure out what went wrong with their own rearing. Of course, if the rearing was extremely damaging then the person may not be in a state to even do that, but for the majority, I think parents have the reflective ability to know what may be wrong/harmful for their children. It’s just that doing the better thing is harder and it is much easier to hit your kid then tried to explain when the child isn’t listening, or on the other end of the extreme: it is easier to give your child what they are crying for then to explain why they cannot have it. It’s all about parent’s taking the easy way out. As the saying goes: the most beautiful things in life are the hardest.

  3. 3 daffiepie March 1, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    You know I agree on the part that parent’s learn from their own parents, but if they really didn’t want their kids to be bad or turn into a blueberry and what not, they would’ve taught them to listen and not do something, if told not to. I guess it’s easier said than done!

    Also, I think it’s a good thing for kids to make the mistakes and learn from them but only if the parent/guardian talks to them about it and explains to them that it’s not right and these are the consequences. I guess Mike Teevee would be an example, his parents let him do whatever he wants and that makes sense because if you restrict a kid to not do something they will do it no matter what (I speak from experince! ha!)

    I still think that parents in this situation could’ve guided the kids a little better, but then again it adds to the plot of the story and it’s relevant that these kids are bad and charlie is the only one that listens and has manners and wins the chance to run the factory!

  4. 4 Thanusha March 1, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Parents play a very important role in the upbrining of their children. The way a child behaves partially displays what they have been taught and what they are expected to do. However, there are also many factors that can influence a child’s behaviour that a parent has no control over. One must understand that a child is considered ‘innocent’ because they do not know what is right from wrong until they are told so. So the person who is telling them right from wrong may not necessarily be the person who should be teaching the child. However, a third person teaching a child is a common thing in today’s society. With more of a fast paced lifestyle and a need for both parents to be working, the time that each child interacts with their parents is significantly lower than 20 – 30 years ago. Most of the skills that a child learns is taught through a teacher, day care provider, grandparents, etc. Bascially all of us immediately raise our finger to the parents saying its their fault, and I believe it is. A parent is responsible for their child and how they are going to be and should take care as to what the child is exposed to. But then the questions of nurture vs. natures comes back and were back at square one.

  5. 5 bhavi March 1, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    I think that parents should explain why the consequences of the actions, and afterwards leave it to them to learn from their mistakes. I believe it is true that parents learn from their parents but its also true that the children may not take in all the teachings which can be positive or negative. in this video it displays that Wonka tells them not to do this or that but does not give the reason as to why not.

    However parents are not the only one to shape children, it is their experiences, and friends, environment. Therefore, there are many factors that affect the children.

  6. 6 supreet March 1, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    I disagree with the claim that bad things happen to those who are bad. Often, even the most virtuous people are punished or trailed without cause or fault. For example, there can be a person who was kind and helpful all their lives, but they were plagued with cancer. What cause would there be for this sort of punishment. Also, there are many criminals who commit bad deeds but either are set free or not caught.

    It is important that when dealing with children, parents reward good deeds and punish bad deeds. This way children get the learn right from wrong and it will help them shape their character. Punishments should always be moderate and controlled, beating a child uncontrollably, kicking them out of your home or harsh verbal abuse would most likely build a complex in the child than aid in showing them what they did wrong to lead them to the right path.

    However, if children do bad deeds, it is not the parents fault! It is only the parents responsibility to teach right from wrong and if children commit a crime after that knowledge, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

  7. 7 Shegoofie March 1, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    I love Roald Dahl in general and one of the recurring themes in his writing seems to be dysfunction in families(Fantastic Mr. Fox comes to mind).
    It might look like a far stretch to look at what is happening here as dysfunction so I won’t go there. But to some extent, it is one of the factors that cause children to behave the way they do: because parents and society often to fail to give the right messages to children.

    The opinion voiced by everyone here seems to be the one Dahl wanted to project(or Tim Burton for that matter). The kids seem to be mini versions of their mom/dad reinforcing the whole nature vs nurture idea.

    I think kids need to be taught accountability – that every action has a reaction or karma (however you might look at things) – what goes around comes around. I know I was made aware of that from a very young age even though it took me AGES to realize what that meant. But you do get a subliminal message when said enough times.

    Sooo:)…I’m iffy about the age though – who knows what age is appropriate for a discussion on accountability? No kid is the same!

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